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	<description>The former Midland Railway line to Rufford and Clipstone collieries near Mansfield in Nottinghamshire</description>
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		<title>Comment on Mansfield Colliery Jct by jerry pinner</title>
		<link>http://ruffordbranch.com/mansfield-colliery-jct/#comment-726</link>
		<dc:creator>jerry pinner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 09:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great to see this ! I lived in one of the new Wimpy houses next to Oak Tree lane Bridge from 1961 - 65 . Lots of steam era memories - 8Fs , 4Fs , and then in late 63 9F 2-10-0s , including a pair of Crosti boilered examples . August bank holidays would bring Black 5s on special miner&#039;s excursions . I believe my brother has forwarded photos , but the aren&#039;t up on the site yet . Contact me if you would like to see the ones that I have .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great to see this ! I lived in one of the new Wimpy houses next to Oak Tree lane Bridge from 1961 &#8211; 65 . Lots of steam era memories &#8211; 8Fs , 4Fs , and then in late 63 9F 2-10-0s , including a pair of Crosti boilered examples . August bank holidays would bring Black 5s on special miner&#8217;s excursions . I believe my brother has forwarded photos , but the aren&#8217;t up on the site yet . Contact me if you would like to see the ones that I have .</p>
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		<title>Comment on Distant by John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 23:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi! Having found your site through google I was in awe to see all these brilliant memories of mining from around my area. My father was a miner for Bevercoats and my late uncle used to work on the trains and must have ridden through some of these junctions at some point. Out of curiosity I visited Rufford Jctn with a friend as I have a keen interest in trains, this was in 2006 knowing the lines were not in use. I photographed the area and pictures are on my website. I must stress how sorry I felt at all the vandalism, it disgusted me. The site was open when we arrived so there was no forced entry or vandalism on our part. We even returned a signal to its former perch out of respect. I think it was signal 205 on the run round line or at least a repeater of it. Your more than welcome to use any of my photos you find of interest, though most are taken at night. Top marks for a really fascinating insight to our railways =] I&#039;ve really enjoyed browsing round =]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi! Having found your site through google I was in awe to see all these brilliant memories of mining from around my area. My father was a miner for Bevercoats and my late uncle used to work on the trains and must have ridden through some of these junctions at some point. Out of curiosity I visited Rufford Jctn with a friend as I have a keen interest in trains, this was in 2006 knowing the lines were not in use. I photographed the area and pictures are on my website. I must stress how sorry I felt at all the vandalism, it disgusted me. The site was open when we arrived so there was no forced entry or vandalism on our part. We even returned a signal to its former perch out of respect. I think it was signal 205 on the run round line or at least a repeater of it. Your more than welcome to use any of my photos you find of interest, though most are taken at night. Top marks for a really fascinating insight to our railways =] I&#8217;ve really enjoyed browsing round =]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Distant by Andrew Higginson</title>
		<link>http://ruffordbranch.com/distant/#comment-721</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Higginson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2011 11:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many years ago I had the privilage to know an old Toton Relief Signalman by the name of Tom Rodgers.He was volunteering as a site guide on the MRT at the time. Tom had countlesss stories about his long and varied career on the railway. He worked on occasions in the Mansfield area and was resident for a while at Blidworth Colliery Junction.

Blidworth Colliery was one of the later mines to be sunk in the area. Geological problems meant that it ceased production almost immediately after it opened whislt further development work was carried out. It was never an easy pit to work, most of it&#039;s activity being in the notoriously challenging High Hazells seam. Superb coal but very hard got. Blidworth&#039;s coal was of very consistent quality which led to it&#039;s use in the 1948 loco exchange trials. Anyway, I digress. Back to, I think, 1928.

Tom was working at Blidworth during the period of suspended production at the pit, so there was virtually no traffic along the branch, just a few wagons of materials going in each week and empties back out. (Not the direction of traffic flow that the colliery company were hoping for!)These were the early days of radio and crystal sets were the thing of the time. Tom was fascinated by this modern technology and owned a crystal set, as did quite a few of the men locally. The Block Inspectors new this and as far back as 1928 they were sneaking around trying to catch Signalmen with the radio on! However, this wasn&#039;t easy at Blidworth. These fearsome figures of high authority had to travel about by train to visit the boxes making up their empire. Signalmen obviously were on the lookout around &#039;passenger&#039; time for unexpected visitors so the Inspectors also used to make use of the local bus service for unexpected visits. Aa Blidworth this was no problem, they had the bus timetable and the stop was on the road just on the Mansfield side of the box, in clear view of an alert Signlman. Although an inspector did almost catch Tomthere with the radio on once, fortunately the sets were small enough to be swept up in the hand (at the cost of the connecting wires!) and slipped into a uniform jacket pocket. 

The thing that did give the game away was the state of the batteries for the telephone to the coliiery weighbridge. The S&amp;T Linesman simply couldn&#039;t understand why the Leclanche cells needed constant topping up when there was virtually no use being made of the phone. There was talk of involving the S&amp;T inspector to look for faults so Tom came clean to the Lineman and explained that the open line wires on that phone circuit made a perfect aerial for the crytal sets and that the battery was also providing the power! Needless to say an arrangement was reached whereby the S&amp;T left the materials for battery maintenance and the Signalmen took over maintaining them on an unoffical basis and nothing further was said!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many years ago I had the privilage to know an old Toton Relief Signalman by the name of Tom Rodgers.He was volunteering as a site guide on the MRT at the time. Tom had countlesss stories about his long and varied career on the railway. He worked on occasions in the Mansfield area and was resident for a while at Blidworth Colliery Junction.</p>
<p>Blidworth Colliery was one of the later mines to be sunk in the area. Geological problems meant that it ceased production almost immediately after it opened whislt further development work was carried out. It was never an easy pit to work, most of it&#8217;s activity being in the notoriously challenging High Hazells seam. Superb coal but very hard got. Blidworth&#8217;s coal was of very consistent quality which led to it&#8217;s use in the 1948 loco exchange trials. Anyway, I digress. Back to, I think, 1928.</p>
<p>Tom was working at Blidworth during the period of suspended production at the pit, so there was virtually no traffic along the branch, just a few wagons of materials going in each week and empties back out. (Not the direction of traffic flow that the colliery company were hoping for!)These were the early days of radio and crystal sets were the thing of the time. Tom was fascinated by this modern technology and owned a crystal set, as did quite a few of the men locally. The Block Inspectors new this and as far back as 1928 they were sneaking around trying to catch Signalmen with the radio on! However, this wasn&#8217;t easy at Blidworth. These fearsome figures of high authority had to travel about by train to visit the boxes making up their empire. Signalmen obviously were on the lookout around &#8216;passenger&#8217; time for unexpected visitors so the Inspectors also used to make use of the local bus service for unexpected visits. Aa Blidworth this was no problem, they had the bus timetable and the stop was on the road just on the Mansfield side of the box, in clear view of an alert Signlman. Although an inspector did almost catch Tomthere with the radio on once, fortunately the sets were small enough to be swept up in the hand (at the cost of the connecting wires!) and slipped into a uniform jacket pocket. </p>
<p>The thing that did give the game away was the state of the batteries for the telephone to the coliiery weighbridge. The S&amp;T Linesman simply couldn&#8217;t understand why the Leclanche cells needed constant topping up when there was virtually no use being made of the phone. There was talk of involving the S&amp;T inspector to look for faults so Tom came clean to the Lineman and explained that the open line wires on that phone circuit made a perfect aerial for the crytal sets and that the battery was also providing the power! Needless to say an arrangement was reached whereby the S&amp;T left the materials for battery maintenance and the Signalmen took over maintaining them on an unoffical basis and nothing further was said!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mansfield Colliery Jct by Andrew Higginson</title>
		<link>http://ruffordbranch.com/mansfield-colliery-jct/#comment-720</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Higginson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2011 10:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Alex. How&#039;s it going in the new box?

I think the cost of taking Mandfield Colliery Sidings out and altering things at South Junction probably helped prevent closure. However, the sidings remained in use for wagon storage until very late. I think one of the Shunters was a chap called Carol who went on to be lampman around Mansfield.

You could also run round at Colliery (after a fashion). If memory serves correctly this wasn&#039;t easily achieved at Rufford, or Clipstone in the final years. I remember a lot of the engine and brake working used to propel the van all the way from Toton.

I was part of the team from the MRC who recovered the last of the signalling equipment from Mansfield Colliery. A sad buisness. We&#039;d also recovered much of the equipment from Rufford Colliery box some years earlier.

I do believe that the last regular Signalman at MAnsfield Colliery box was a chap called Jack Stevenson. I never met him but he was well liked by everyone locally. The last time I was there before it shut Jeff Slater, one of the relief men (and a proper old hand signalman of the first and fierce order) was on duty. JEff had come off the Erewash valley in &#039;68 when Trent took over. I&#039;ve a feeling he&#039;d been at Pye Bridge and quite possibly Westhouses and Blackwell. It mnay even have been him who was on duty when Flash Fletcher landed in a big heap outside the box, having arrived rather too quickly (through no fault of his own I hasten to add!) from the direction of Tibshelf!

Anyway, I digress. THere is some fascinating information on this site about a very little noticed piece of railway.

One final snippet. One of my Grandads best friends was a Mansfield Fireman between the early 1920&#039;s and 1930, when he was made redundant at the start of the depression. He had many stories and several of the concerned this line. Just before he was finished they had a regular job on nights collecting spoil being dug out from the construction of the Welbeck Coliiery branch (midland side) and working round onto the Mid-Notts joint line which was also being built. They were heavy trains and it was well and truly up hill from  Mansfield East to Crown Farm. Once off the curve at East they used to shove the regulator in the roof and go for it. A good fire was needed to supply the steam for this charge. They were using Midland No.3 tender locos. One night they had a particularly spirited run, they weather wasn&#039;t great and fog was starting to become a problem in the Maun valley but it didn&#039;t affect them going and they stormed up to Mansfield Colliery box. On the way back the fog had really come down and beyond Masfield Colliery box they were &#039;feeling their way&#039; back towards East Junction. They were only going a t walking pace when they passed Mansfield Coliieries Up Distant. The Fogman there shouted up to ask if they knew who had worked the spoil train that night. Smelling a rat they said they&#039;d no idea but asked why he wanted to know. He replied that the mad b*ggers had been going so hard they were raining live coal all over and had set fire to his fogging hut and he was npow having to stand in the freezing cold all night! Fortunately they were too far away by this time for further discussion!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Alex. How&#8217;s it going in the new box?</p>
<p>I think the cost of taking Mandfield Colliery Sidings out and altering things at South Junction probably helped prevent closure. However, the sidings remained in use for wagon storage until very late. I think one of the Shunters was a chap called Carol who went on to be lampman around Mansfield.</p>
<p>You could also run round at Colliery (after a fashion). If memory serves correctly this wasn&#8217;t easily achieved at Rufford, or Clipstone in the final years. I remember a lot of the engine and brake working used to propel the van all the way from Toton.</p>
<p>I was part of the team from the MRC who recovered the last of the signalling equipment from Mansfield Colliery. A sad buisness. We&#8217;d also recovered much of the equipment from Rufford Colliery box some years earlier.</p>
<p>I do believe that the last regular Signalman at MAnsfield Colliery box was a chap called Jack Stevenson. I never met him but he was well liked by everyone locally. The last time I was there before it shut Jeff Slater, one of the relief men (and a proper old hand signalman of the first and fierce order) was on duty. JEff had come off the Erewash valley in &#8217;68 when Trent took over. I&#8217;ve a feeling he&#8217;d been at Pye Bridge and quite possibly Westhouses and Blackwell. It mnay even have been him who was on duty when Flash Fletcher landed in a big heap outside the box, having arrived rather too quickly (through no fault of his own I hasten to add!) from the direction of Tibshelf!</p>
<p>Anyway, I digress. THere is some fascinating information on this site about a very little noticed piece of railway.</p>
<p>One final snippet. One of my Grandads best friends was a Mansfield Fireman between the early 1920&#8242;s and 1930, when he was made redundant at the start of the depression. He had many stories and several of the concerned this line. Just before he was finished they had a regular job on nights collecting spoil being dug out from the construction of the Welbeck Coliiery branch (midland side) and working round onto the Mid-Notts joint line which was also being built. They were heavy trains and it was well and truly up hill from  Mansfield East to Crown Farm. Once off the curve at East they used to shove the regulator in the roof and go for it. A good fire was needed to supply the steam for this charge. They were using Midland No.3 tender locos. One night they had a particularly spirited run, they weather wasn&#8217;t great and fog was starting to become a problem in the Maun valley but it didn&#8217;t affect them going and they stormed up to Mansfield Colliery box. On the way back the fog had really come down and beyond Masfield Colliery box they were &#8216;feeling their way&#8217; back towards East Junction. They were only going a t walking pace when they passed Mansfield Coliieries Up Distant. The Fogman there shouted up to ask if they knew who had worked the spoil train that night. Smelling a rat they said they&#8217;d no idea but asked why he wanted to know. He replied that the mad b*ggers had been going so hard they were raining live coal all over and had set fire to his fogging hut and he was npow having to stand in the freezing cold all night! Fortunately they were too far away by this time for further discussion!</p>
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		<title>Comment on GC by Paul Godber</title>
		<link>http://ruffordbranch.com/rufford-colliery-sidings/gc/#comment-715</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Godber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 19:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi 
Excellent  site  with  great  information, brings  back  fond memories.

I  am seeking information on the  actuall  workings  within  the colliery,  where  loco&#039;s  ran  round,  paths to and from the  empty  sidings, brake van roads ?  location  of a shed  for  colliery loco&#039;s.

time  frame  is  60&#039;s 70&#039;s 
 a  very  large  1:2500 map  is  available if  anyone   can  help.

many  thnks

Paul  Godber</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi<br />
Excellent  site  with  great  information, brings  back  fond memories.</p>
<p>I  am seeking information on the  actuall  workings  within  the colliery,  where  loco&#8217;s  ran  round,  paths to and from the  empty  sidings, brake van roads ?  location  of a shed  for  colliery loco&#8217;s.</p>
<p>time  frame  is  60&#8242;s 70&#8242;s<br />
 a  very  large  1:2500 map  is  available if  anyone   can  help.</p>
<p>many  thnks</p>
<p>Paul  Godber</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mansfield Colliery Jct by Kevin P Mulhall</title>
		<link>http://ruffordbranch.com/mansfield-colliery-jct/#comment-709</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin P Mulhall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2011 11:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Alex I would say the reason why Mansfield colliery juction was left open is for 2 reason 1 remember I told you that traffic from Clipstone and Rufford was left at Mansfield cj and 2 just over half way from Mansfield cj to Mansfield South junction was a GF at Windsor Road for Mansfield Std Sand,key for this was kept at Mansfield South junction</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Alex I would say the reason why Mansfield colliery juction was left open is for 2 reason 1 remember I told you that traffic from Clipstone and Rufford was left at Mansfield cj and 2 just over half way from Mansfield cj to Mansfield South junction was a GF at Windsor Road for Mansfield Std Sand,key for this was kept at Mansfield South junction</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mansfield Colliery Jct by Alex fisher</title>
		<link>http://ruffordbranch.com/mansfield-colliery-jct/#comment-703</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex fisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jan 2011 16:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, 

An excellent site, 

Question is, why after closure of Rufford colliery sidings did Mansfield junction remain open? why not, close that as well and make the machines No signaller token machines? or even remove one of the machines and make the section from Mansfield South to rufford?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, </p>
<p>An excellent site, </p>
<p>Question is, why after closure of Rufford colliery sidings did Mansfield junction remain open? why not, close that as well and make the machines No signaller token machines? or even remove one of the machines and make the section from Mansfield South to rufford?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Mansfield Colliery Jct by Kevin P Mulhall</title>
		<link>http://ruffordbranch.com/mansfield-colliery-jct/#comment-695</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin P Mulhall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2011 17:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Clyde, re the message from Stevie Zerachy about the following,1 Westbury traffic was all HTV if he looks at the photo he will see a MXV/MCV behind the brake then all HTV.2 re Clipstone GC the 2+08&quot;s was working T23.3 I have seen on the Midland working from Clipstone 2+25.4 first train of the day 1979 when I was lampman at Rufford was a trip to Clipstone load to Mansfield Colliery Mid,then EBV Clipstone,note this was not always the case,as for traffic working out from Rufford per day most of the time it was 2 trips 1 in the morning and 1 in the afternoon.5 Re empty wagons is was 100% Eastern Region in to Clipstone,and 99% Eastern Region in to Rufford,the only time I ever seen Midland men bring emptys to Rufford was if it was traffic that was going to go out via the Midland to Toton</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Clyde, re the message from Stevie Zerachy about the following,1 Westbury traffic was all HTV if he looks at the photo he will see a MXV/MCV behind the brake then all HTV.2 re Clipstone GC the 2+08&#8243;s was working T23.3 I have seen on the Midland working from Clipstone 2+25.4 first train of the day 1979 when I was lampman at Rufford was a trip to Clipstone load to Mansfield Colliery Mid,then EBV Clipstone,note this was not always the case,as for traffic working out from Rufford per day most of the time it was 2 trips 1 in the morning and 1 in the afternoon.5 Re empty wagons is was 100% Eastern Region in to Clipstone,and 99% Eastern Region in to Rufford,the only time I ever seen Midland men bring emptys to Rufford was if it was traffic that was going to go out via the Midland to Toton</p>
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		<dc:creator>Gravity shunting : Rufford Branch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2010 09:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>Photographs by Peter Churchman, Adrian Stretton and Charles Weightman : Rufford Branch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2010 09:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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